Receive Mixer experiments for 24GHz

My last set of experiments for receive mixers involved two different mixer types for 24GHz.  The first was a Marki Microwave harmonic mixer made for the 22-33GHz (?) range.  Again, digging through my pile of stuff I had bought three of these mixers at Microwave Update many years ago.

A microwave part is just a fancy paperweight unless its used in something.

This mixer has sma connectors for the LO and IF - from what I could find on the net, its IF was in the 1GHz range.  The waveguide input appears to be WR34 (?) or some non standard flange - its feed is smaller than WR42, the hole spacing is slightly smaller than WR42 waveguide.  I found I could attach a section of WR42 with one screw only - obviously the fix is to drill out the holes on the WR42 flange which im not crazy about defacing my small stash of waveguide but its needed to get a good mechanical mount with all four flange holes.

Anyway, hooking this up to my Elcom 11.8GHz oscillator and 432 for an IF detected full scale the 24ghz test source in the shop.  Im planning for this to be a spectrum analzyer extension mixer - it could also work for a bilateral mixer but I need to test it for transmit.

While I had my 24G test setup running, I tried a Celeretek receive mixer.  LO was around 14dBm, IF 432 MHz yielded full scale readouts on the FT817 with the test source.  This mixer will definitely work for my backup 24G radio.

40 GHz downconverter at 47GHz

Many years ago I bought a 40GHz downconverter assembly.  The input was WR28, there was an LO input and IF output SMA.  The IF was in the 1GHz range and the LO input was listed at 8 to 10GHz.
I never used the downconverter as I had convinced myself it wouldnt work at 47 - after all, thats what the surplus id tag read.
I finally decided to open the downconverter and see what it looked like on the insides.  There was a PC board assembly for the detector post amp but what was interesting was the LO and RF input:  There was a hybrid ring and what looked like chip diodes.  The LO transmission line had a tiny chip that must have been the multiplier.  What was interesting was that there were NO filtering on either the RF or LO transmission lines.  So, what would stop me from feeding in 11.8GHz?  And, why not see if the mixer post amp was broadbanded and worked at 432MHz?
I fed the multiplier with 11.8GHz from my Elcom oscillator and hooked up the IF to my FT817 tuned to 432MHz.  I turned on my 47GHz weak signal source brick and quickly found the test signal - I now need to try higher LO drives (I was using 13dBm) and try the gain pot on the post amp board.
So, the lesson is: if you dont try it, you never know if it works.....

Picture 1:  RF input on the left, LO input on the right.  IF out the top.

External view of the 40GHz down converter

Back at it: experiments with harmonic mixers from the surplus pile

Its been a while since my last threat to post something.  I attended Microwave Update in St Louis and it was great to see many of the midwest microwave ops which got me back to building and experimenting.
My primary focus was to get back to building a spare 24 and 47GHz transverter.  47G had some challenges as I have yet to find any surplus made for that band that was not super expensive.  Even the surplus was pricey.  I found out about some Alcatel 38ghz detectors on the auction site that appeared to work good as harmonic multipliers.  I ordered a couple and gave them a try.  There are two SMA connectors and a WR28 input.  One of the SMA's goes to a 'detector' and the other goes to a diode assembly that would act as a multiplier - I dont know what the design intent of these were - power detectors?  Anyway, I fed the multiplier SMA with a 11.7GHz oscillator and listened for a signal with my cheap diode mixer/detector made out of an SMA flange and a diode from a Qualcom 'gold board'.  The IF was 432 MHz.  I found the test signal generated by the Alcatel mixer.  I tried the 'Detector' SMA but nothing was heard.  The picture below is of the Alcatel mixer being fed with the 11GHz brick (X4 multiplication)

I found this picture of the Mixer insides - the top is the 'multiplier' signal path, the lower is the detector signal path.  Supposedly there is a low pass filter in the detector path which explains it not working with the 11ghz brick.